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    From Dave Treat This morning I read a great post on Dave Ferguson's blog Velocity: Moving at the Speed of the Spirit. Dave is a Lead Pastor and Spiritual Entrepreneur with Community Christian Church in Naperville, IL. He is also [Read More]

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    Scott

    Great analogy. Career paths are a must for any organization.

    Take it one step further. The whole church experience can be overwhelming for new believers. How about a discipleship path?

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    Bryan Roberts

    You had me at "six-figure income".

    NOEL

    Years ago I stumbled onto this McDonald's "Training Principle" that applies greatly to the church:

    “We don’t ever train someone to make a hamburger. We train them to train others to make a hamburger. And in the process, they learn how to make a hamburger.”

    Kathy J

    As a CCC atender for 14 years I remember the old days when we had a similar "pipeline" on the back of our programs to help us move from seeker to believer to small group attender to leader etc. I was so driven to move through the steps and conquer each stage of growth. It was a weekly reminder that we were about GROWTH not just church attendance. -Kathy

    Trevor H.

    Obviously the McD's leadership model encourages upward mobility. I would love to hear some of your thoughts about Christ's leadership model. John the Baptist believed in downward mobility (John 3:30), Jesus led with a servant leadership, and as the church developed the Apostles assigned deacons as servant leaders in the mode of Christ.
    How do the McD's model and the Biblical model compare and contrast?
    As a passionate youth pastor, should I expect to give up my youth ministry and pursue a senior ministry or teaching ministry in order to expand my influence? Can I lead a church from a youth ministry position just as effectively?
    If I stay in youth ministry is it right that a church continues to see me as second tier and financially compensate less, because I haven't "grow up" into a preaching pastor?

    Some of this may be off topic to this post, but...

    Anyways, thanks.

    Dave Ferguson

    We used to have a six-step model for growing a person up spiritually: 1. friend 2. seeker 3. believer 4. disiciple 5. servant 6. servant-leader. We ditched that because we thought it was too linear. We now have the 3C's of CELEBRATE (God:me), CONNECT (Church:me)and CONTRIBUTE (World:me). These are three relational experiences and you can start with any one of these experiences and become a 3C Christ Follower. Kathy and Scott, do you think this is better, worse or just different? Dave

    Dave Ferguson

    Trevor, let me briefly respond to a few of your questions. First, I don't know enough about McDonalds to comment on it's leadership model, however I do believe the most effective model of leadership for both church and business is throuhg servant leadership as lived out by Jesus and as explained by Robert Greeleaf in his classic Servant Leadership. Second, I think you should lead and serve out of your giftedness and passion. If your gifts and passion call you to serve students do that and expand your influence through using those gifts. I doubt you could lead an entire church as a youth pastor; only because your influence will be with only a slice of the existing demographic of most churches. No one should be seen as second tier if they are using thier gifts and should be compensated according to thier span of influence.

    Kathy J

    You caught me reminiscing about the good old days (but not wanting to return to the old ways). In answer to your question about the linear growth model vs. the current 3C experiences... The linear was an excellent tool for vision casting of what it means to begin growing in Christ but is only a subset of what the 3C begins to unfold as one delves deeper. Understanding the 3C's may take the new attender/believer a little longer to unpack but once engaged, there is a myriad of ways God can speak to the believer in terms of growth. The merit of both models is they are tools for vision casting as reminders of what we're reaching for but...3C wins the grand prize for be an all encompassing, informing, challenging model for being a Christ-follower. One goes deeper...deeper into becoming as one gets drawn into the eddy's forces. - Kathy

    Dave Ferguson

    "...as one gets drawn into the eddy's forces." Love it. Thanks Kathy.

    michael

    this makes me think about the book simple church. basically that mcdonalds is influencing future generations but the isn't.

    this is based on a sample of 100 4-year olds that recognized the arches but not the supposed likeness of Christ.

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