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November 21, 2008

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210 Leadership Blog

Excellent notes. I'm so stoked you posted these man. Thanx

Antwon Davis

Wish I could have been there. This is a topic so worth discussing with others and taking before God.

Working in college ministry for almost 4 years and experiencing the stagnancy of student ministry, I found myself frustrated with the level of apathy and lack of vision amongst the leaders.

It was during the Catalyst Conference this year that I realized that I had also become stagnant trying to move with the wrong "Tribe" (as Seth Godin would day). Two weeks after the conference, I finally made that painful decision that I had been avoiding to make, and I stepped down from the leadership team as well as from attending the church. I am convinced that it was the right move.

Thanks for posting the insight!

Troy Kennedy

Thanks Dave!!! This is very helpful. Any chance you can elaborate more on the “we can’t let anyone leave” idea. Did he say any more about who SHOULD leave?

Jason Curlee

great takeaway Dave...for me I grab hold of needing to find a multi-site campus that is ahead of us and where we want to go...and then learn how they think....

210 Leadership Blog


I think that first quote reveals a lot about Groeschel's view on leadership.

"Don’t say, “Our people won’t ___ ” Instead you should say, “We have not led our people to ___ ”

I think it shows the mind of a leader who knows that everything in an organization (whether good or bad) comes back to its leadership.


No petty blame games or finger-pointing, just hard-core maturity as a leader .

After all, it was Winston Churchill who said, "The price of greatness is responsibility."

Michael Trent

Dave,

I just cranked out an article that was birthed from conversations of hearing church leaders complain with "If we had more ______, then we could get more done." The top three things I hear are "more people, more facilities, and more money...."

(1) We have the greatest people ever - those called, designed, and destined for purpose and greatness.

(2) Churches have some of the best real estate and square footage on the planet -

(3) And, oh yeah, just a friendly reminder, we have the Richest Dad - um, EVER.

A wise man once said (not too many posts ago) - lead with YES, then HOW.........well, that is what we should lead with in the visions that God gives (visions are free) and then let God figure out the how (especially since he's our CFO).

Okay - I'm done for now.

Michael Trent
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