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August 04, 2008

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Rabi

Here is a series on
Principles of Christian Leadership http://www.cfcindia.com/web/mainpages/preparation_for_church_leadership.php

And here is a link to a book titled A Spiritual Leader
http://www.cfcindia.com/web/mainpages/book_window.php?book=a_spiritual_leader"

Greg Atkinson

I love it. Look for me to come back to you and ask you about these for my book. Great stuff!

Dr. Barry E. Winders

Dave,

You are absolutely right about people giving money to a compelling cause. People ask, "Why should I give and Why should I attend?

Thanks for your insights, the work you are doing and your blog.

mark

For every good idea that someone brings to the table the question has to be asked "how does this idea help us reach our vision." if it does nothing to move the ball down the field towards the vision you really have to ask yourself why are we doing this. I know a lot of churches that have mission and vision statements that fit on a napkin and that's where they stay.

Mark

The most important leadership principal I have learned is that every "good idea" has to be put through the vision/mission filter. If it does not strategically move the ball down the field towards achieving the vision, we really have to ask the tough question, "Why are we doing this?" I believe a lot of good churches are stuck chasing good ideas that lead nowhere.

Mark

Oops ... posted the same comment twice ... my bad:(

Dave Ferguson

Thanks for the links and positive feedback.

Mark, I agree with you about the mission/vision filter. We definitely need it. The reason that didn't make this list is that I see too many leaders using that filter in a way that stifles innovation and we need more permission giving. Thanks! Dave

Julie

Great post, Dave!! You definitely live out all 5 of these things, and that's a big part of why God has brought Community to where we are!

Jeff Pessina

Hi Dave; I wonder how we can be sure that we don't "grow to pieces" if we lead with too much "yes"? And is it, in your opinion, possible to lead with too much yes? Too much of a good thing can be bad, right? Perhaps this factor is the least of some churchs' concerns. But here at our ministry we have worried about growing too fast, and following so many ideas, that we might possibly grow out of cohesion; losing (possibly, I say) the identifiable and distinctive marks of a mission work determined to do thus and thus in this way and that way. Does this make sense to you? I mean that we might remain glued together by more than a bunch of ideas of reaching more souls. As you can well imagine, there are a million ways of going about that task. But at what point can we be sure that we should NOT question, say, an idea to go to Khazakistan (sp?) ASAP, or to set up Bible Booths on the corners of major cities, etc... etc... Any thoughts?

Billy Chia

Great list!

One of mine:

Do less, cut back, and simplify. When you've slashed to the core then pick something else to stop doing. You don't have to do everything on your own - leave some room for other people do something.

Jason Curlee

Position Yourself For Opportunities - As a leader, pastor, or church your need to be positioned to move when an opportunity crosses your path.

Bill (cycleguy)

Don't know if this makes a list anywhere else (maybe a Top 10 instead of a Top 5) but one the lessons I needed to learn badly was "Be Yourself." I cannot be a Dave Ferguson or a Perry Noble or anyone else. One pastors way of forming and sharing a vision may not be what works for someone else.

Mitch

As a leader one must persevere with great confidence that the mission will be accomplished. This falls under the category of like "speed the leader speed the team", if the leader stops, the team will stop also. But if the leader runs the great race for God's mission, so will the team.

A bunch of cliches but still think they are true.

phill longmire

What is your napkin for creating a movement...and discipleship?

Scott Fillmer

I just love top 10 lists, but sometimes a top 5 is just as good, great list. I love #4, lead with a "yes". That is tough, sometimes I think the most common word used is "no".

I always had a running philosophy to never ask the question because the answer is going to be "no", great post.

Read Scott

You mentioned giving young guys a chance. What if the young guy has displayed a non-committing attitude or behavior? He frequently visits other churches, but still asks to be in a leadership role at our church.

How should that play out?

Pudge Huckaby

Dave,

Very cool stuff! I always love learning more about leadership! :)

Thanks!
pudge

Sterling

Hey Dave,

thanks for this great and insightful post. 5 points that could fit on a napkin that I'll try to write onto my heart as a leader. Here's one that I'm learning, albeit sometimes, the hard way...

You are 100% responsible.

If there's hurt, I can ask forgiveness. If misunderstanding, I can communicate more clearly. If there's lack of help, I can delegate more effectively. Learning that my challenges are not rooted in other people's problems and failures is a tough but needed lesson.

Thanks for leading well & paving the way for a whole generation of leaders to learn from you!

Sterling

Bryan

Thanks for these great thoughts. The napkin test is great.

Tre Lawrence

No 5! No 5!! No 5!!!

Great list!

Term Paper

It is utterly right. I admire your thoughts and perception. Hope to see new updates from your soon. Thanks for sharing

Michael

No.3 is superb. i do agree with that. thanks for sharing your experience with us

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Noah Lomax

Thanks for the great article! As a young leader, I'm thankful for someone who says "take risks on emerging leaders." Many times I have heard people say "you aren't old enough yet." I know they mean well, but I the opportunity to try under someone who can redirect me seems to be more valuable than waiting until I'm out on my own. If I fall on my face then, who helps me up? Great post!

Dave Ferguson

Thanks Noah! If you ever decide to start a church, let me know! Dave

Eric

Dave: love the 5 principles. In business, NPO or church it is really all about people. people that work for/with you and people/customers/clients/congregants you work for. I am not a pastor per se but am often perplexed when this overriding principle is often not on "top of the list" in church matters as it should be

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